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Hi,

    I notice the CUT, COPY, and PASTE options in the "Edit" menu.
But I am unable to do anything with the Clipboard from Trmptel.  Are
these functions really implemented or not?  These would certainly be
excellent features.

    I am using version 0.05.  Is there a newer version?



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Subject: Re: 32-bit Mosaic sucks up my memory!

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jon Tara) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Jon Tara)
>Subject: Re: 32-bit Mosaic sucks up my memory!
>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 01:41:20 GMT
>Summary: 32-bit applications take more memory

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tom
>Grelinger) writes:

>>In article <[e-mail]>

>>>Hi all,

>>>When using alpha 3 or 4 of WinMosaic, my free memory drops from about 12 megs
>>>free to eight or six megs free!  This didn't happen with 2.0a2.  Does anyone
>>>know if this is a problem with Mosaic, Win32s, or something that I can fix?
>>>My system has 16 megs RAM with a ~three meg permanent swapfile.

>>I think experience has taught us both that the 32-bit apps of alpha 3 and 4
>>take a lot of memory.  I can understand why Windows NT only runs reliable with
>>more than 16 megs; preferrably 32 meg.  I was trying to run alpha 3 with only
>>4 MB of physical ram, and it was taking forever.  I'll stick with Alpha 2
>>until I upgrade memory sometime this summer.

>The reason it's taking up so much space is becuase it has to load Win32s,
>which is nornally not loaded until you run a 32-bit application. You now
>essentially have TWO copies of Windows loaded: one 16-bit and one 32-bit.

>Of course, the same thing applies with Windows NT, expect it's the other
>way around. Actually, I think the 16-bit subsystem is loaded automatically
>by NT, but there is a way to keep it from loading, just in case there is
>anybody running NT who does *not* regularly use 16-bit apps.

>BTW, NT runs just fine on my machine with 16MB. I don't think it requires
>*more* than 16MB to run well - it just doesn't run too nicely with much less
>than that.

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More than simply running Win32s a 32 bit app will always be larger than
a 16 bit app.  All of the instructions are 32 bit instaed of 16,  Default word
sizes are larger etc.  The only way to get around this one is code
optimization (which has probably been done where possible) and buying more
memory.



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John P. Hammonds
Intense Pulsed Neutron Source
Argonne National Laboratory
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Subject: Re: CHAT CLIENT that supports voice  (kinda like a telephone call) ?

In article <[e-mail]> misha@abacus (Misha Glouberman) writes:
>From: misha@abacus (Misha Glouberman)
>Subject: Re: CHAT CLIENT that supports voice  (kinda like a telephone call) ?
>Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:29:42 GMT

>Derek Chan ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Sussman) writes:
>: >I heard that the Mac has a client for the Internet that you can use a
>: >microphone and chat to another person on the Internet in real time live using
>: >your voice.   I was wondering if anyone hear has heard of such a client that
>: >runs on the pc  (maybe even in windows) .    Please email me back if you have
>: >any info.   thanks a lot!    [e-mail]

>: Hiya...say, do anyone know offhand the name of the mac client and where I can get it?  Thanks.

>I think that the Mac client Derek's talking about is Maven. It's available at

>k12.cnidr.org as /pub/Mac/Maven2.0a15.sea.hqx

>                                        - Misha

Has anyone writen a PC version of Maven yet?  If not, where would be a good
place to get info on how to write one.  Is there an RFC on the format
somewhere?

Greg